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Blue | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:06 AM
Our system meetings are basically only if there’s a real problem or multiple people cornering one person to call them out on the...
@Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 - jump Hahahaha 😂 I'm sorry, that's way too relatable
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:06 AM
I wanna put sand in my hair
12:06 AM
Sorry, intrusive thought
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Nota
they would have the same opinions and memories
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/5/2023 12:07 AM
I've found equal richness in making friends with singlets as with making friends with entire plural systems
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Fhern | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:07 AM
they would have the same opinions and memories
@Nota - jump We all share memories, yes
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Fhern | Shadow System
they would have the same opinions and memories
@Nota - jump We all share memories, yes
i was talking about tulpa-less people
12:08 AM
i figure they're called singlets
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Grey 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:08 AM
Haha yeah, I was the subject of the last meeting because I’m like a chronic loner and everyone was like “you can be paranoid all you want, just don’t assume the worst of us”
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Blue | Shadow System ↩️
Reply to: > Our system meetings are basically only if there’s a real problem or multiple people cornering one …
12:08 AM
I mean I was isolating myself from my friends in-system because I thought they were too cool for me so I guess I had it coming lol
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Fhern | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:10 AM
i figure they're called singlets
@Nota - jump Oops, I misread, I'm sorry
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Blue | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:10 AM
I mean I was isolating myself from my friends in-system because I thought they were too cool for me so I guess I had it coming l...
@Grey 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 - jump My God the irony given your name
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Grey 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:12 AM
Hm, what do you mean by that?
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Blue | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:12 AM
Noooooothing 😁
12:12 AM
I'm not host bashing or anything
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Grey 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:13 AM
oh I kinda get it(?)
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Blue | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 12:13 AM
My host's name is Gray, I had to give him crap
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Grey 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:14 AM
As you do
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We like giving our original crap too
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:15 AM
Guys
12:15 AM
Serious discussion in lounge, we need opinions
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:17 AM
Apparently thonkmancy is serious business
12:18 AM
Oh, it's not really a joke
12:19 AM
Thonk to replace tulpa? It came across as a joke at first, if it comes as a legitimate term I think it might be hard to sell
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Nota
does that mean that if i befriend a system person i'll obtain 30 friends at once
Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:19 AM
not really with our case, it depends
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A long kiss goodnight
Thonk to replace tulpa? It came across as a joke at first, if it comes as a legitimate term I think it might be hard to sell
no offense but tulpa is already a pretty whack term
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:21 AM
None taken, I have my personal problems with the term
12:22 AM
I don't feel good to share them here right now though
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:22 AM
it is a bit ack to me
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:23 AM
We’re pretty apathetic towards the term, we prefer using headmate or systemmate because tulpa feels weirdly hierarchal (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:23 AM
Oh yeah?
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:23 AM
Yeah, "host = original" isn't my favorite
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:23 AM
Well what if i asked you
12:23 AM
How many thonks you have in your head
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you thonkin?
12:24 AM
is thonkin the replacment for tulpamancy
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:24 AM
we came up with the word eri recently, still have yet to make a variant of eri that means purposely made like tulpa
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if youre a tulpamancer are you a thonker
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berockly (TTG)
How many thonks you have in your head
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:24 AM
To me thonk seems too close to think
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it sounds silly
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A couple alternatives to 'tulpa' are the system origin terms "parogenic" and "willogenic" meaning intentionally created
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:25 AM
Agreed
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ ↩️
Reply to: Yeah, "host = original" isn't my favorite
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if you call them "thonks" i'll call them "vassals"
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:25 AM
I really don't like parogen or paro. The -genic context is rooted in anti-endo sentimism and I don't want to be a part of all of that
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:25 AM
We like to avoid hierarchies as much as possible so we don’t even disclose the identity of our original
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: Agreed 📎
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:26 AM
I dont like genic terms either. It's too hard to fit my experience into something like tgat
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:26 AM
Nobody can treat the original differently if no one knows who they are
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: We like to avoid hierarchies as much as possible so we don’t even disclose the identity of our origi… 📎
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:26 AM
"Mixed-origin" is probably as specific as I'm going to get. There's mystique in it.
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A long kiss goodnight
I really don't like parogen or paro. The -genic context is rooted in anti-endo sentimism and I don't want to be a part of all of that
It is..? Ik a person with DID created the terms traumagenic and endogenic but i thought they were neutral on endos
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:26 AM
some of us use genic terms from member to member but its just self identification type of stuff
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:26 AM
We don’t really use genic terms very often
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headmate seems like the most neutral term, but what to call the practice? Plurality is too broad an umbrella term
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Kei Wendt
It is..? Ik a person with DID created the terms traumagenic and endogenic but i thought they were neutral on endos
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:27 AM
I could be misremembering, but there was a whole write up someone did on the subject Here it is- I had part 3 and 4 in mind iirc https://lb-lee.dreamwidth.org/1120824.html (edited)
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:27 AM
i see some people say stuff like mind-hacking :p we say that oftentimes with how we use the practice
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Deleted User
i see some people say stuff like mind-hacking :p we say that oftentimes with how we use the practice
mm yeah that term is associated with silicon valley drug addicts to us though
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:28 AM
fair enough
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Nota
it sounds silly
berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:28 AM
Hey your getting it!
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like "buy non-perscription amphetamines to work even harder at your job" kinda drug addicts
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A long kiss goodnight
I could be misremembering, but there was a whole write up someone did on the subject Here it is- I had part 3 and 4 in mind iirc https://lb-lee.dreamwidth.org/1120824.html (edited)
I see
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:30 AM
I have a soft spot for the term comate, meaning "with/joint/together friend". It's a simple word, you can choose to drop -mancy or not (cocreation, comancy), and there's something absolutely beautiful about a cocreator as the host- a host isn't soley responsible for a tulpa's creation
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blanka
headmate seems like the most neutral term, but what to call the practice? Plurality is too broad an umbrella term
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/5/2023 12:30 AM
dividualism
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:30 AM
HEWWO :33 IS ME BEN
12:30 AM
I have a new solution
12:30 AM
Bulpamancy
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A long kiss goodnight
I have a soft spot for the term comate, meaning "with/joint/together friend". It's a simple word, you can choose to drop -mancy or not (cocreation, comancy), and there's something absolutely beautiful about a cocreator as the host- a host isn't soley responsible for a tulpa's creation
Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:30 AM
that sounds nice tbh
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/5/2023 12:31 AM
nevermind, bulpamancy it is
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
dividualism
very cool! But it does sound more like an ideology than a practice 🤔 I like it though
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:31 AM
Bulpa, and bulpamate
12:31 AM
bulpagenic
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:31 AM
Mememancy
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personally, tulpa is a fine term
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blanka
very cool! But it does sound more like an ideology than a practice 🤔 I like it though
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/5/2023 12:31 AM
thanks, I stole the idea from someone smarter than me 😅
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:32 AM
The Thing Were You Make A Guy - mancy
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:32 AM
eri/eries are probably words i will continue to use more just bc i like stuff being personal
12:32 AM
XD
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 12:32 AM
Just making guys y’know
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ ↩️
Reply to: The Thing Were You Make A Guy - mancy
12:32 AM
Spending time with the guys
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:32 AM
I am just producing guys
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 12:32 AM
that thing my brain does without me asking it to
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Nota
personally, tulpa is a fine term
berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 12:33 AM
Yeah
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BUT
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Its still very fun, i mean important business that we discuss alternatives
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i don't think i have a say on this as i am a noob
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 12:38 AM
Once bulpamancy becomes mainstream, I'll make a killing on the commercial rights
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Nota
i don't think i have a say on this as i am a noob
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:39 AM
It's okay to have an opinion on this. Plus, I personally find your opinion really valuable as it will give us a better sense of what beginners think in general
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so my value will drop as i gain experience
12:39 AM
opinion inflation
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 12:40 AM
No, I mean specifically for the topic of alternatives to the word tulpa
12:41 AM
Your opinion doesn't deflate over time. Your opinions matter in general, I just wanted to encourage you to hop in and I'm genuinely interested in what you think
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another question
1:11 AM
how do tulpas based off pre-existing fictional characters feel about their origin? (edited)
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 1:11 AM
@Rusty
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:11 AM
It depends for us
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to be specific, i want individual opinions
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:12 AM
Some of us see ourselves as literally that character. Some of us like it, Some of us have had very negative experiences
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:12 AM
Will ask Eishi! Moment...
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notafed ↩️
Reply to: how do tulpas based off pre-existing fictional characters feel about their origin?
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:12 AM
Me personally, I don't mind being a fictive of a genshin character. I have memories of myself in the game, and sometimes those memories bother me, or make me miss my "home", but generally, I cope.
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 1:13 AM
None of us are based off of pre-existing fictional characters. I was accidentally based off my headmate, but I don't think that counts
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Inky (DustyAngel47) BOT 8/5/2023 1:13 AM
For what it's worth, neither of us feel much attachment towards our respective series' apart from liking them. We don't feel like we're really from any of our "sources."
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notafed ↩️
Reply to: how do tulpas based off pre-existing fictional characters feel about their origin?
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Eishi 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:13 AM
I feel pretty disconnected from my source. I'm an oc of Kei's. I used to feel quite connected to it, and remembered exomemories very strongly. But now, i've grown as an individual, and i feel more connected to this life.
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:14 AM
Owen is another fictive in our system, and he's struggled to move past his fictional memories, because he misses his old life and wishes he had it back. Some experiences are more negative than others after all. Owen's life in the game was a mostly successful one, and with magic and fame and all that, he finds this life to be sad, and boring.
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